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more appropriate episode to drink a

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little drink and smoke a little smoke in

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defiance of the massive

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multi-generational propaganda campaign

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against my favorite consumable pastimes

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this is a great show there's a lot of

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awesome practical information in here on

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a crucial topic and I feel like anyone

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who's having a hard time financially

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should really pay attention to the

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possibilities this could help them out a

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lot as well as anyone who just wants to

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stick it to the oil companies the

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Rockefeller lineage the IRS and the

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international bankers all at the same

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time all while improving their own

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situation cost of living and much more

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it's a bigger deal than it might seem on

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the surface and powerful people have

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spent billions of dollars to sway your

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mind one way and we want all that

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spending to be in vain it's pretty cheap

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to tell people the truth but the lies

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that's what's expensive so listen

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carefully to the man with the plan the

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dude who beat crude and run on the other

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side of this little THC did he done by

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one of the listeners named Sean will be

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talking with David bloom I walk on the

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I walk on the higher side UFOs carry the

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elite while crypt is wrinkle fairy dust

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we call it DMT the Machine elves capture

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the layout of the rapture we can't let

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leprechauns get the gold that they're

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after like our children come around and

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they give you the creeps

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Greg Carl would chilling with a gang of

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big feet I could say that is that in a

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reptilian hope at but I'd rather get

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started on a higher side Chet what Greg

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where you at I am right here and a big

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thanks to Shaun for that one but alright

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folks today we're going to uncover yet

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another area manipulation and try to

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undo some of the damage that the good

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old Rockefeller propaganda has done to

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our culture yet again and this time in

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the area of energy and fuel you know

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we've heard about these so-called new

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fuel options the past few years with

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ethanol or a 15 or 85 and we really

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don't know what that is it can get

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pretty confusing and the long history of

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manipulation and lies only makes it

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worse but the situation with oil and

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gasoline is one of the most serious on

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the planet today and when you hear just

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how simple and empowering the solutions

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can be you're going to have a whole new

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reason to load the nefarious elite so

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let's clear up that confusion and

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provide a little ethanol enlightenment

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with our guest david bloom one of the

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leading experts on the topic and he has

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been educating people on it probably

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longer than I've been alive he's the

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author of the book alcohol can be a gas

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and is featured heavily in a new

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documentary called pump aimed at this

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subject as well which premieres in New

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York and LA this very weekend it's

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fascinating stuff and I think you're

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really going to be blown away so let's

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do the damn thing David bloom welcome to

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THC hey welcome Greg glad to be here

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yeah and thanks for doing this I know

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that over the years I failed to educate

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myself about fuel because it always just

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seemed boring and kind of confusing

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there's a lot of propaganda out there

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and when I learned about your work I was

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pretty shocked and being primarily a

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conspiracy show we know that entire

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populations are often undermine for the

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profits of a few and it happens more

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than anyone would like to admit but to

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get us started why don't you tell us

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about the real history here with alcohol

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gas because the truth is we've had a

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solution longer than we've even had a

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problem right David well yeah

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so you know if when you think about it

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for a minute it wasn't like we

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discovered gasoline and said wonder if

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we have an engine that would run on that

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you know and the engines came first they

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ran on other things before gasoline was

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invented and that other thing was plain

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old a hundred percent moonshine so

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alcohol was the first fuel before

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gasoline was ever invented and it was

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used first for internal combustion

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engines and mines where you couldn't

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have toxic exhaust and then automobiles

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picked up alcohol and continued into the

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future the the Model T was a an alcohol

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vehicle which was later able to run on

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gasoline but Henry Ford was a total

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advocate of alcohol fueled because well

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you may have heard Ford's famous saying

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if if my if my workers can't afford my

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car that it's too expensive mm-hmm and

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so you know he he looked at at that time

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sixty percent of the country was

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involved in agriculture so his first

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vehicles were tractors and then cars and

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you know they all ran on alcohol at that

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time because that's not just what was

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available but that's what was affordable

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so as time we've done there was this

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fella named Rockefeller who came along

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who was making his money uh replacing

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whale oil for lamps with kerosene so

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he'd boil up oil and he'd get the heavy

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stuff the the kerosene for lighting and

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heating and he throw away all the

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volatile nasty stuff by dumping it in

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rivers at night and so uh you know

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people didn't like that too much

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especially when the river caught on fire

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you know so but Rockefeller figured out

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that if he fussed around with the car

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enough he could get it to run on that

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volatile stuff instead of alcohol and

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since it was a waste product from his

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other industry he

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undercut the price of alcohol in the

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market so after a bit of time the market

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was split between city fuel which was

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gasoline and what was sold in the

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countryside was alcohol and basically

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you had to have a car that would go

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between the two so if you drove out in

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the country and there were no gas

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stations then you had to stop by a farm

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and buy a jug of alcohol to put in your

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tank and then switch and come on back to

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the city so so for a long time there's

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quite a tussle in the market between the

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two fuels man it is just such a

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fascinating story and I mean it I think

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a lot of people would be shocked to hear

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that ethanol was around right in the

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beginning I mean I know I was and then

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as Rockefeller wanted to kind of corner

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this market I mean that's kind of what

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fueled the whole prohibition thing isn't

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it

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that's right I went to the Henry Ford

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Museum in Dearborn and research this

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because I had heard it was true and what

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I found was that Rockefeller conducted

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an enormous campaign against alcohol in

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the early part of the 1900s and

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basically he just decided he didn't want

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50% of the market he wanted the whole

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market you know which is basically the

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goal of capitalism right is monopoly so

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Rockefeller went after alcohol by

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demonizing it as a drug you know

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basically saying that alcohol is the the

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root of all evil and uh and what he did

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is he hired the women's Christian

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Temperance Movement a group of crazy old

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ladies you know they used to go into

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bars with umbrellas and beat people

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about the head saying you know lips that

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touch alcohol will never touch mine and

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you know you can imagine how fringy

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these people were and yet given millions

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of dollars by rockefeller they were able

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to walk into Congress and buy off

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Congress to make alcohol illegal

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for all purposes but you got to

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understand this wasn't just passing a

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bill this was passing a constitutional

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amendment so for the viewers out there

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who forgot their civics classes

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that's a two-thirds majority now you got

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to imagine this was done in the early

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1900's and women didn't even vote yet

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when this was passed so you can't even

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say all the little old ladies pass this

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thing it was sheer economic bribery that

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had hard-drinking Congress vote against

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alcohol and it destroyed alcohol for

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about 20 years as a as a fuel in the

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United States and caused the destruction

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of literally billions of dollars worth

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of alcohol producing equipment around

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the United States and so for a while

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Rockefeller had the whole market to

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himself and we became a gasoline

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guzzling country huh it's so funny to

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hear this because you know I'm not naive

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I know that money is behind everything

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but I guess I just been led to believe

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that prohibition was the one time that

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government wanted to crack down on

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something for the betterment of society

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and then how naive I was well why should

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the situation be any different you know

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well that's the thing you know people

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say oh you're a conspiracy theorist and

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when something happens you know uh

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you're either a conspiracy theorist or

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you're a coincidence theorist you know

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that just happens so so basically if

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something big happens people work on it

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to make it happen and if they work

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together or breathe together which is

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the meaning of conspiracy you know

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that's what happens and so basically you

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know it's it's more an expression of

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organization versus coincidence when we

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talk about how government and

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corporations work together to make

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something happen for the benefit of the

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corporations yeah and on a show called

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THC we got to point out I mean this is

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almost a direct parallel to the

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marijuana hemp issue

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the plant was made illegal because it

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was a threat to big business and because

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people could harvest it on their own

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pretty easily again you know it's not

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about the consumption of the

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quote/unquote drug both products just

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happen to be great at taking the edge

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off but it's about getting in the way of

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huge corporate profits and it's

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frustrating and really sad when you hear

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the true story well now you know how

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they developed the strategy to to stop

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him from being in the market it was a

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repeat of prohibition and alcohol they

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demonized hemp as a drug which it was

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practically just a rope at the time and

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and then had it prohibited and so the

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PlayBook they worked from and

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corporations reuse what works over and

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over again they're not the most creative

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bunch so it worked for alcohol they made

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it work for for him and just like in the

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case of alcohol only the United States

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fell for it

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I mean Rockefeller went after France and

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Germany and all these other places to

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prohibit prohibit alcohol and they all

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said you must be kidding prohibit wine

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prohibit beer you must be nuts

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and so only the United States bought

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bought the propaganda just go figure you

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know and I've also heard you tell an

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interesting anecdote about World War two

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I mean the Germans used alcohol as their

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fuel right it kind of came into play

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with our strategy well you know Germany

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was really different than the United

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States Germany had a lot of coal but

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they had no oil

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so basically Germany ran its entire

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economy on alcohol all the vehicles ran

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on it the trucks ran on it the planes

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ran on it and Germany was a powerhouse

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in the world because it was exporting

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alcohol engines and alcohol equipment

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and tractors and everything all around

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the world locomotives they made running

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on alcohol so that was the national fuel

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in Germany in the early part of the

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1900s and when it come when it came to

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World War two it it was what powered the

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the whole German economy

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- you have to realize in Germany they

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have the same problem there that we have

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in the United States today they had huge

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surpluses of agriculture now here is

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corn we have way too much corn there

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they had way too much potatoes and so

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there were 77,000 cooperative

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distilleries around Germany processing

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surplus potatoes and alcohol as we all

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know if you make potatoes into alcohol

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its vodka right from being born and

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alcohol its whiskey but the alcohol is

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the same in both cases so when it came

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to World War 2 our strategist thought

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alright well we'll find Germany's two or

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three refineries we'll bomb those and

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then we can go back to business

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well Germany didn't have any refineries

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so they had to bomb 77,000 community

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distilleries to end the war took them

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four years so in terms of anti-terrorism

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or national security the best thing you

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can do is have thousands of alcohol

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distilleries because you can't be cut

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off of energy or fuel and Germany wasn't

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so in the nuremberg accords following

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World War two they were prohibited from

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establishing an alcohol fuel system

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again huh so that's how bothersome you

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know having those darn farmers in charge

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of the Andes and energy supply instead

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of a handful of oil corporations man it

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just it's just so interesting to hear

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that alternative side of things and

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going back to Prohibition for a minute

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since it was you know about the fuel

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side of things and not at all about the

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consumption once prohibition ended did

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the government keep the fuel side of the

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law in place no no the fuel side took

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off like a rocket because we are in the

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in the early depression near the 30s in

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the United States and farmers were the

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most hard-hit and so we had a huge

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surplus of farm

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products because uh World War one had

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generated a big demand for wheat and

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stuff and so basically after that war

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which was roughly the time that

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prohibition started it was a double

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hammer to the farmers they had they had

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increased their production and then

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their market went away so after

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prohibition farmers started making

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alcohol like crazy we had we had a

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company one company called agro which

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had over two thousand stations

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throughout the Midwest and it sold

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blends of alcohol and pure alcohol at

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the pump and the oil companies to get

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rid of this new movement toward alcohol

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again did the first media saturation

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bombing so what happened the case of

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aggro is that the oil companies

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hand-delivered because there was no

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internet there were no fax machines

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hand-delivered press releases to every

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radio station in every newspaper in the

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country and what the press releases said

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was the Agra company wasn't helping

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American farmers it was getting

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Caribbean molasses and making alcohol

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and taking advantage of the positive you

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know spin that farmers were providing

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this and they were really traitors to

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the country well at that time people

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believed everything that the press said

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and so everyone boycotted agro and in 30

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days they were out of business so the

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oil companies have become masters at

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using the media to discredit and and

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otherwise destroy alcohol fuel in this

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hundred year war that they'd been in

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between farmers and themselves so you

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know this the in fact I was talking to

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someone here at the premiere the other

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night here at pump the movie which is

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about alternative fuels and I was

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talking to her because she's in the PR

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business and I said well

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tell me what's the largest PR firm in

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the world and she named one and I said

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not even close the largest PR firm in

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the world is the American Petroleum

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Institute and it's bigger than the top

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three PR firms put together so when the

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when the API cranks up to mess with

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alcohol it's a tidal force it's like a

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tidal wave coming in across the media

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and that's why you haven't heard about

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this stuff before yeah I mean you'd

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wonder why they would need such a huge

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PR firm and now we're starting to

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realize that they've had to keep this

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secret I mean what about the big oil or

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I mean what about the big energy crisis

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during the Carter presidency did alcohol

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fuel make any kind of rebound

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during that well that was the since the

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since World War two that was the the big

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resurgence of alcohol Carter was

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righteously angry that the American oil

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companies raised their prices to the

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same prices as the Arab embargo

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companies the countries in other words

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the Arabs had decided our support of

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Israel needed to be punished and so they

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cut off the oil you know they cut off

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the oil uh basically to to show everyone

447
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that they were in charge and that we had

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to stop funding Israel and people in

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this country for the first time had to

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wait in line that were rationed they

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could only get fuel every other day and

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then only ten gallons people in this

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country were not used to having their

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freedom to have fuel curtailed and there

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was a tremendous amount of anger which

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Carter understood and so he slapped on a

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$0.50 a gallon windfalls profit tax

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against the oil companies and then gave

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all that money to develop alternative

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energy and alcohol blossomed again

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all across the country in the 1980s late

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1970s

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and you know thousands of companies got

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started then man I'm learning more every

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minute so tell us about your personal

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journey because I know you've been

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involved a lot in empowering

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self-sustaining areas over the years and

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you've been trying to teach about these

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things for a long time when did you

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first learn about this well I first

472
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learned about it college back in the

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dark ages of the early 70s and I learned

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about it from an ecology professor my

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profession is as an ecologist and bio

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system and test so I learned in an

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offhand way just a comment in a class as

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we saw a bottle of beer fermenting and

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we're talking about it a you know big

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big five-gallon bucket of a bottle of

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beer from any where the teacher said

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that stuff it run your car and I totally

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didn't believe him so I went to the

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library and figured I'm going to find

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out there was never been anything other

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than gasoline ha and I was shocked there

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was this gigantic hidden history of

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alcohol that nobody was talking about so

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that's how I I got hooked and when the

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gas crisis hit I started working for

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Mother Earth News which back in the day

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was the alternative energy appropriate

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technology think-tank and published a

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magazine so I and a couple of other guys

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ran the alcohol fuel division of Mother

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Earth News and we publish distillery

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plans and we distributed them all over

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the country and the hundreds of

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thousands and you know people were

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making alcohol all over the country with

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our plans so it was you know gasoline

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had gone way up people really motivated

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and it was a very worrisome time for the

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oil companies and eventually with this

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as you went along you eventually ran

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into some legal trouble didn't you well

507
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the the legal trouble came about because

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the oil companies had mobilized into

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into fighting alcohol and so because I

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had taught

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a couple of hundred workshops and how to

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make alcohol of repair in two years the

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PBS came to me and said hey let's take

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your workshop and make it into a TV

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series and so was ten half-hour shows

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took two years to produce and we wrote a

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book to go along with it which is the

518
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precursor to my modern version alcohol

519
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can be gas and it went on the air in San

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Francisco a hundred and thirty PBS

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stations were signed up to to air it

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after the premiere and during the

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premiere I was at the printer getting

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the book printed this is all before

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desktop publishing right this was actual

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photographs and Ruby live and heaven

527
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:19,809
knows and you know physical paste up of

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a book so anyway we're up there getting

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the book printed and all of a sudden we

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get a call to stop the presses and when

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I call KQED I find out that they're

532
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letting the premiere finish but they

533
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cancelled the distribution to the other

534
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hundred and twenty or so stations that

535
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were supposed to hear the show and what

536
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:46,840
happened was Chevron called them up and

537
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said we don't understand we we thought

538
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you liked our money and why is that on

539
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the air and they just cancelled it

540
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:58,510
immediately rat you know so anyways all

541
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the facts of that got discovered in a

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three-year lawsuit I filed against kqe

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oil companies but you know they had lots

544
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of money in big lawyers and they were

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able to keep the things suppressed but

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well it's out now them right and if I

547
00:25:23,399 --> 00:25:20,490
remember correctly you had done some

548
00:25:26,010 --> 00:25:23,409
distilling of your own which is a big

549
00:25:28,919 --> 00:25:26,020
no-no in this area or at least it was in

550
00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:28,929
the late 80s right yeah you know um

551
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:31,929
other news we looked into it and we we

552
00:25:36,450 --> 00:25:33,970
found that there was no legal way to

553
00:25:39,210 --> 00:25:36,460
make distillation products in the United

554
00:25:41,490 --> 00:25:39,220
States you could just barely make wine

555
00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:41,500
or beer and only in small batches though

556
00:25:47,580 --> 00:25:44,110
were no brewpubs nothing like that and

557
00:25:50,970 --> 00:25:47,590
that was all a throwback to the

558
00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:50,980
Prohibition era where alcohol was highly

559
00:25:57,930 --> 00:25:54,430
you know regulated so those laws are

560
00:25:59,970 --> 00:25:57,940
still on the books and you know in that

561
00:26:02,810 --> 00:25:59,980
day there was something called the

562
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:02,820
Government Printing Office which as a

563
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:06,250
citizen and a taxpayer you could order

564
00:26:12,930 --> 00:26:08,530
anything that the government published

565
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:12,940
for free and it was all hard copy Wow so

566
00:26:19,050 --> 00:26:16,720
so we went ahead and went to the

567
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:19,060
government printing office and got the

568
00:26:26,670 --> 00:26:24,010
entire library of regulations of the

569
00:26:29,610 --> 00:26:26,680
alcohol Tobacco and Firearms it stood

570
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:29,620
about four feet tall on the floor of the

571
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:32,320
apartment we were working on this in you

572
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:34,720
know so we got a keg of beer and we said

573
00:26:38,010 --> 00:26:36,010
we're going to find this thing we're

574
00:26:40,410 --> 00:26:38,020
looking for an exception to the rule

575
00:26:43,710 --> 00:26:40,420
somewhere in the regulations that would

576
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:43,720
led us to still alcohol so here we were

577
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:45,730
gone through page at a time four of us

578
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:48,370
looking for the thing and about halfway

579
00:26:53,610 --> 00:26:51,130
through the stack which was good because

580
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:53,620
if we would have had any more beer we

581
00:26:58,970 --> 00:26:54,730
would have never gotten any further

582
00:27:02,310 --> 00:26:58,980
anyway you know there it was the

583
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:02,320
experimental distillers license and I

584
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:04,810
look at that and I go oh this is this is

585
00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:08,050
the wedge we use to drive it in so what

586
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:10,270
it said was if you were a corporation

587
00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:13,210
that wanted to try something different

588
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:16,360
or new you didn't have to fill out the

589
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:17,770
hundred thousand dollars where the

590
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:20,530
paperwork for a beverage license you

591
00:27:26,430 --> 00:27:23,410
could file this simple form and be able

592
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:26,440
to do your experiments you know so I

593
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:30,310
filled it out I sent it in and we got it

594
00:27:36,210 --> 00:27:33,730
back you know all approved it you know

595
00:27:40,620 --> 00:27:36,220
only caused a hundred dollars nice quite

596
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:40,630
amazing so so we already had our still

597
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:43,210
built of course we were already playing

598
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:46,210
with it so we called up the Alcohol

599
00:27:50,970 --> 00:27:47,970
Tobacco and Firearms people and said

600
00:27:51,930 --> 00:27:50,980
hello hello we have a still over here

601
00:27:55,249 --> 00:27:51,940
we're making

602
00:27:59,820 --> 00:27:55,259
you'll you know and like the next day a

603
00:28:03,930 --> 00:27:59,830
SWAT team shows up the ETF shows up and

604
00:28:05,639 --> 00:28:03,940
I get hauled off in handcuffs but we

605
00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:05,649
called the press before they showed up

606
00:28:11,399 --> 00:28:08,470
so the whole thing was you know reported

607
00:28:14,730 --> 00:28:11,409
and filmed so the next morning when I

608
00:28:19,619 --> 00:28:14,740
you know have to go before the judge I

609
00:28:23,249 --> 00:28:19,629
was surrounded by the press in the

610
00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:23,259
courtroom and so uh Here I am standing

611
00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:25,960
there with handcuffs behind me and the

612
00:28:32,129 --> 00:28:28,750
judge says well mr. Blume it seems like

613
00:28:35,129 --> 00:28:32,139
there's not much to discuss here you had

614
00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:35,139
a distillery um and we presume that

615
00:28:40,169 --> 00:28:37,059
means you were going to make alcohol for

616
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:40,179
it so you seem to be guilty and says do

617
00:28:43,289 --> 00:28:41,289
you have anything to say about that

618
00:28:46,110 --> 00:28:43,299
because I went there to defend with

619
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:46,120
defending myself for that lawyer and I

620
00:28:51,090 --> 00:28:48,159
said you know Your Honor I do have a

621
00:28:53,399 --> 00:28:51,100
statement and there's a precedent

622
00:28:55,710 --> 00:28:53,409
actually about this and he goes well

623
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:55,720
what's that mr. bloom and I said well

624
00:29:01,950 --> 00:28:59,200
you see back in England in the 1700s

625
00:29:04,619 --> 00:29:01,960
they arrested a chemist for having a

626
00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:04,629
distillery and the judge says mr. bloom

627
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:07,990
you're trying my patience 1700s

628
00:29:14,460 --> 00:29:10,720
I said well bear me out your honor so I

629
00:29:16,110 --> 00:29:14,470
said yeah this guy got busted for having

630
00:29:17,879 --> 00:29:16,120
a distillery and the judge said the very

631
00:29:19,950 --> 00:29:17,889
same thing you know you have a

632
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:19,960
distillery so we presume you're guilty

633
00:29:25,889 --> 00:29:22,480
and it's because you have the equipment

634
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:25,899
in your possession and the young chemist

635
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:28,000
said well in that case Your Honor I have

636
00:29:34,830 --> 00:29:32,320
another crime to you know to confess to

637
00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:34,840
and it just says well what is it he said

638
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:37,750
well I have to confess to rape the

639
00:29:42,899 --> 00:29:40,000
Justice Great Scott did you rape

640
00:29:45,019 --> 00:29:42,909
somebody and the chemist said no but I

641
00:29:46,830 --> 00:29:45,029
have the equipment in my possession

642
00:29:49,470 --> 00:29:46,840
that's so good

643
00:29:53,310 --> 00:29:49,480
so my judge says mr. bloom there will be

644
00:29:55,259 --> 00:29:53,320
no levity in my courtroom and all the

645
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:55,269
whole press started laughing at that

646
00:30:00,690 --> 00:29:59,440
comment but I then said well your honor

647
00:30:03,250 --> 00:30:00,700
can you have the bailiff pulled this

648
00:30:06,130 --> 00:30:03,260
piece of paper out of my back pocket and

649
00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:06,140
so they take paper out of my back pocket

650
00:30:10,450 --> 00:30:07,790
because I couldn't get to it I was

651
00:30:12,190 --> 00:30:10,460
handcuffed and they brought it up to the

652
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,200
judge and the judge opens it up and

653
00:30:17,410 --> 00:30:14,960
looks at it he goes my god this man has

654
00:30:20,410 --> 00:30:17,420
a distillery permit I said that's right

655
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:20,420
take these cuffs off I'm walking out and

656
00:30:25,450 --> 00:30:22,970
that's what happened but that wasn't the

657
00:30:27,910 --> 00:30:25,460
end of it we wrote an article about it

658
00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:27,920
we published it around the country how

659
00:30:35,650 --> 00:30:29,750
to get your own permanent what happened

660
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:35,660
to me and 250,000 people applied for the

661
00:30:39,790 --> 00:30:38,480
permit hmm now you know you think a

662
00:30:42,370 --> 00:30:39,800
government can handle that but there

663
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:42,380
were only three guys in the alcohol

664
00:30:48,370 --> 00:30:44,450
Tobacco and Firearms office to process

665
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:48,380
these permits so they come into work and

666
00:30:54,730 --> 00:30:50,690
the entire office is full from floor to

667
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:54,740
ceiling with sacks of mail so so this

668
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:56,450
caused me to be called up before

669
00:31:02,380 --> 00:31:00,080
Congress remember this is the oil crisis

670
00:31:07,090 --> 00:31:02,390
and the head of the ATF was called up

671
00:31:09,940 --> 00:31:07,100
before Congress and the the senator who

672
00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:09,950
was in charge of the hearing was George

673
00:31:16,330 --> 00:31:13,550
McGovern so for those of you who weren't

674
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:16,340
part of the 60s and 70s George McGovern

675
00:31:23,050 --> 00:31:20,510
was really for Congress a real radical

676
00:31:25,570 --> 00:31:23,060
Democrat I mean he tried to stop the

677
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:25,580
Vietnam War he was a good guy so anyway

678
00:31:29,650 --> 00:31:27,410
he houses both up there in Congress and

679
00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:29,660
he goes to the ATF president you know

680
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:32,750
I'm director and says can you explain to

681
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:35,600
me why you're stopping patriotic

682
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:38,510
Americans from making alcohol to power

683
00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:41,200
their cars instead of buying Arab oil

684
00:31:46,090 --> 00:31:44,150
well the guy who's standing there is

685
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:46,100
just a bureaucrat he's not used to a

686
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:48,710
senator calling him out on the carpet

687
00:31:55,210 --> 00:31:51,890
sputtering there and McGovern turns to

688
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:55,220
me and says well do you have a an answer

689
00:32:00,670 --> 00:31:57,440
to this mr. bloom I said your honor I

690
00:32:04,330 --> 00:32:00,680
have actually a pretty simple to follow

691
00:32:06,820 --> 00:32:04,340
a piece of paper here which would be a

692
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:06,830
pretty good model for a permit the ATF

693
00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:10,310
could use to register all the stills and

694
00:32:14,830 --> 00:32:12,980
it's only a page and a half and so they

695
00:32:17,049 --> 00:32:14,840
take it up to McGovern he goes well that

696
00:32:18,489 --> 00:32:17,059
looks good and he turns to the ATF guy

697
00:32:20,529 --> 00:32:18,499
says you think that's good enough and

698
00:32:22,239 --> 00:32:20,539
the etf guy would have agreed to

699
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:22,249
anything at that point to get out of the

700
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:25,850
room so that permit is still um pretty

701
00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:28,850
much unchanged till today you can make

702
00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:31,279
your own alcohol based on the permit I

703
00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:33,590
wrote and you can make up to five

704
00:32:38,019 --> 00:32:35,840
thousand gallons a year the permit is

705
00:32:39,460 --> 00:32:38,029
free and it's really easy to fill out

706
00:32:42,489 --> 00:32:39,470
Wow

707
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:42,499
so yeah that's it's so crazy that there

708
00:32:48,249 --> 00:32:45,529
would be such a loophole in the system

709
00:32:49,749 --> 00:32:48,259
but it's really not surprising when you

710
00:32:51,129 --> 00:32:49,759
find that it's originally there for

711
00:32:52,779 --> 00:32:51,139
corporate purposes you know they're the

712
00:32:55,570 --> 00:32:52,789
only ones who you think would use it

713
00:32:57,730 --> 00:32:55,580
that's right so the history is really

714
00:33:00,249 --> 00:32:57,740
cool there's much much more history but

715
00:33:03,820 --> 00:33:00,259
you know the point was that it's been a

716
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:03,830
struggle between alcohol and the people

717
00:33:07,989 --> 00:33:05,809
that control fossil fuel for a long time

718
00:33:11,289 --> 00:33:07,999
because alcohol can be used for more

719
00:33:13,690 --> 00:33:11,299
than running a car we can run generators

720
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:13,700
with it in fact General Electric it's

721
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:17,090
great big turbine generators are

722
00:33:20,739 --> 00:33:19,039
certified for alcohol fuel and they

723
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:20,749
didn't have to have anything replaced to

724
00:33:27,129 --> 00:33:24,399
do that they you know are already able

725
00:33:28,810 --> 00:33:27,139
locomotives can run on alcohol as the

726
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:28,820
Germans prove they sold alcohol

727
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:32,809
locomotives to to Egypt that we're just

728
00:33:39,850 --> 00:33:36,769
fine airplanes in Brazil run on alcohol

729
00:33:41,710 --> 00:33:39,860
and we you know as we said the whole

730
00:33:44,529 --> 00:33:41,720
German air force ran an alcohol World

731
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:44,539
War two so there are many things to use

732
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:46,399
it for but you know the most important

733
00:33:52,779 --> 00:33:50,210
thing might not even be cars the most

734
00:33:55,989 --> 00:33:52,789
important thing that actually affects

735
00:34:01,060 --> 00:33:55,999
half the world three and a half billion

736
00:34:02,999 --> 00:34:01,070
people is cooking because those people

737
00:34:07,570 --> 00:34:03,009
that three and a half billion people

738
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:07,580
they cook with wood or kerosene indoors

739
00:34:18,579 --> 00:34:15,770
and so the huge health health toxicity

740
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:18,589
of breathing any kind of smoke whether

741
00:34:23,260 --> 00:34:21,649
it's wood or kerosene is immense and so

742
00:34:27,069 --> 00:34:23,270
you're looking at four or five million

743
00:34:29,859 --> 00:34:27,079
women a year who die from breathing that

744
00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:29,869
smoke just while they're cooking the

745
00:34:36,809 --> 00:34:31,369
fact Hillary Clinton went into one of

746
00:34:39,309 --> 00:34:36,819
these Hut's during her Perot time and

747
00:34:41,740 --> 00:34:39,319
she's choking on the smoke and the

748
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:41,750
woman's house in this little Hut and she

749
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:43,490
goes to the wall with her fingers and

750
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:46,569
can scrape carbon right off the walls

751
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:50,089
and you know those are the same thing as

752
00:34:53,470 --> 00:34:52,609
people's lungs right being covered with

753
00:34:56,670 --> 00:34:53,480
all this crud

754
00:35:00,430 --> 00:34:56,680
so she really went on a pretty good

755
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:00,440
rampage about how people should not have

756
00:35:07,780 --> 00:35:03,680
to die just because they're cooking so a

757
00:35:10,569 --> 00:35:07,790
couple of things got put into place the

758
00:35:14,140 --> 00:35:10,579
Global Alliance for clean cookstoves

759
00:35:18,190 --> 00:35:14,150
at the UN got put together and the EPA

760
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:18,200
had an indoor air division developed all

761
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:21,200
about trying to end indoor cooking a

762
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:24,410
wood now there's two aspects of this

763
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:26,690
what is the health aspect but the other

764
00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:29,930
is the deforestation aspect because it

765
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:32,750
turns out that the great majority not

766
00:35:37,870 --> 00:35:35,450
just a little majority of deforestation

767
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:37,880
happens because people simply want to

768
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,930
cook their food so uh you know timber

769
00:35:48,430 --> 00:35:44,000
harvest and all that for construction

770
00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:48,440
lumber is nothing compared to what we're

771
00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:51,260
talking about when it comes to cooks you

772
00:35:57,700 --> 00:35:54,710
know cooking so uh you know we do a

773
00:36:01,599 --> 00:35:57,710
demonstration of how clean these stoves

774
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:01,609
are versus you know using a fossil fuel

775
00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:05,089
or a wood source on the Gaian networks

776
00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:07,849
one of the you know it's the real goods

777
00:36:15,550 --> 00:36:12,140
company so gyeom they have a network and

778
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:15,560
the story um show called beyond belief

779
00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:17,599
of George Noory who is one of your

780
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:19,790
colleagues George Noory has a big radio

781
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:22,880
show and we do on that television show

782
00:36:28,180 --> 00:36:26,150
an example of burning both fuels and

783
00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:28,190
you'll see that the Pyrex Bowl that's

784
00:36:34,780 --> 00:36:30,799
full of gasoline turns completely black

785
00:36:37,870 --> 00:36:34,790
with huge foul clouds of smoke and we

786
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:37,880
burn alcohol next to it no carbon in the

787
00:36:42,220 --> 00:36:40,250
ball you can almost not even see the

788
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:42,230
flame it's so clean

789
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:45,310
and those stoves are available for

790
00:36:52,540 --> 00:36:49,550
people to use for cooking around the

791
00:36:56,830 --> 00:36:52,550
world and that stove was also in the you

792
00:36:59,380 --> 00:36:56,840
know in the TV clip so uh you know so

793
00:37:01,060 --> 00:36:59,390
basically we have the solution right

794
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:01,070
there for three and a half billion

795
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:04,160
people to be able to cook and not die

796
00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:08,450
from cooking uh and alcohol you know

797
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:11,500
unlike wood is actually more convenient

798
00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:13,850
seeing these places where people cook

799
00:37:20,859 --> 00:37:16,700
with wood they end up walking eventually

800
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:20,869
five or six hours one way to get a

801
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:23,030
hundred pounds of wood to bring back to

802
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:25,730
their village and then use that for a

803
00:37:29,980 --> 00:37:27,890
week's worth of cooking that's because

804
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:29,990
all the other would be has already been

805
00:37:34,330 --> 00:37:32,450
harvested by people for cooking or like

806
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:34,340
humans are like termites going out there

807
00:37:40,450 --> 00:37:37,609
eating the forest right so if you make

808
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:40,460
alcohol basically you're growing a

809
00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:42,890
sugary or starchy crop right where you

810
00:37:48,910 --> 00:37:45,950
live let's say it's like tapioca which

811
00:37:50,890 --> 00:37:48,920
is a very common root crop all over the

812
00:37:54,130 --> 00:37:50,900
tropics or you know maybe it's a little

813
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:54,140
sugar cane or maybe it's prickly pear

814
00:38:00,040 --> 00:37:55,850
cactus whatever grows well in your

815
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:00,050
climate you ferment it you know which is

816
00:38:05,170 --> 00:38:02,810
just like making wine or beer you mush

817
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:05,180
up the stuff you heat it up and then you

818
00:38:12,580 --> 00:38:07,760
throw yeast in the yeast eat the sugar

819
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:12,590
and they pee out alcohol so when it gets

820
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:14,960
up around twelve or thirteen percent

821
00:38:19,060 --> 00:38:15,770
alcohol

822
00:38:20,830 --> 00:38:19,070
well the yeast keel over dead drunk the

823
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:20,840
now you've got wine you've got really

824
00:38:25,690 --> 00:38:23,119
weird brown wine let's say from prickly

825
00:38:28,090 --> 00:38:25,700
pear cactus so you boil that up in a

826
00:38:29,530 --> 00:38:28,100
distillery and you can make it one

827
00:38:31,630 --> 00:38:29,540
hundred percent alcohol you know

828
00:38:33,550 --> 00:38:31,640
depending on the technology that's what

829
00:38:36,609 --> 00:38:33,560
you use for cooking or in your car or

830
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:36,619
whatever so if you're in a village well

831
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:39,290
you grow some of this stuff you make the

832
00:38:44,109 --> 00:38:42,530
alcohol and then people use it you can

833
00:38:45,820 --> 00:38:44,119
sell it if you're a business little

834
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:45,830
business or if it's a cooperative the

835
00:38:50,260 --> 00:38:48,050
whole village uses it so the thing is no

836
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:50,270
one has to and when I say no one I mean

837
00:38:54,170 --> 00:38:53,119
all 1,000 people in the village don't

838
00:38:56,420 --> 00:38:54,180
have to for

839
00:38:59,240 --> 00:38:56,430
out there six hours to get there would

840
00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:59,250
and that means they get to stay home

841
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:01,920
they get to do what they need to do for

842
00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:03,900
farming and everything else instead of

843
00:39:10,460 --> 00:39:06,390
huge time sink to go out just to get

844
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:10,470
cooking wood and it's not dangerous can

845
00:39:14,330 --> 00:39:12,210
you imagine being a single woman going

846
00:39:17,540 --> 00:39:14,340
out to get 100 pounds of wood walking

847
00:39:21,620 --> 00:39:17,550
six hours on a road in Africa this this

848
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:21,630
is not safe okay so so basically you

849
00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:23,370
know this affects half the world and

850
00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:25,980
it's more important than our being able

851
00:39:32,030 --> 00:39:29,190
to drive our cars on 50 cent a gallon

852
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:32,040
alcohol so this propaganda has

853
00:39:36,350 --> 00:39:34,170
definitely been effective and today so

854
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,360
much of global politics is about

855
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:38,880
controlling oil are there any countries

856
00:39:43,970 --> 00:39:42,000
that still today run on alcohol or have

857
00:39:47,780 --> 00:39:43,980
they all kind of fallen in line with

858
00:39:51,650 --> 00:39:47,790
with this propaganda well up until World

859
00:39:54,170 --> 00:39:51,660
War two most countries ran on alcohol

860
00:39:57,220 --> 00:39:54,180
because there was no way to deliver oil

861
00:40:00,140 --> 00:39:57,230
to them the International tanker fleet

862
00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:00,150
wasn't in existence yet so if you were

863
00:40:05,450 --> 00:40:02,550
somewhere like New Zealand which is like

864
00:40:07,130 --> 00:40:05,460
the last stop before Antarctica you

865
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:07,140
aren't getting any oil delivered and

866
00:40:13,070 --> 00:40:10,290
places like the Philippines too far from

867
00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:13,080
any source of oil that was developed so

868
00:40:18,980 --> 00:40:16,440
these places had to use alcohol so in

869
00:40:21,860 --> 00:40:18,990
the the New Zealand they use sugar beets

870
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:21,870
and you know which were a great source

871
00:40:27,230 --> 00:40:24,210
for alcohol and they also used sorghum

872
00:40:28,010 --> 00:40:27,240
which mix blackstrap molasses in the

873
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:28,020
United States

874
00:40:33,380 --> 00:40:30,510
sorghum looks like corn and a little bit

875
00:40:35,390 --> 00:40:33,390
like sugarcane and you can squeeze it to

876
00:40:38,510 --> 00:40:35,400
get the the juice out and make kind of a

877
00:40:39,740 --> 00:40:38,520
whiskey from it so those countries had

878
00:40:43,850 --> 00:40:39,750
to use those things up in the

879
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:43,860
Philippines they tapped nipa palm trees

880
00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:46,050
so it's kind of like maple sugar tapping

881
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:48,270
you know and they got this huge flow of

882
00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:51,510
sugar water out of these trees fermented

883
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:54,180
and distilled that and before bor to the

884
00:40:58,940 --> 00:40:55,770
philippines were making seventy five

885
00:41:02,600 --> 00:40:58,950
million gallons of alcohol a year from

886
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:02,610
palm drippings okay so so this was done

887
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:03,450
all over the world

888
00:41:08,610 --> 00:41:05,530
well when world war ii happened

889
00:41:10,890 --> 00:41:08,620
that's when our tax dollars built the

890
00:41:12,690 --> 00:41:10,900
tanker fleet and so then the oil

891
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:12,700
companies could deliver all over the

892
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:16,930
world and pretty much out competed

893
00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:19,090
alcohol because of all the subsidies

894
00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:21,460
that the oil companies received now

895
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:25,150
Brazil up until World War two was

896
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:27,250
completely running on alcohol they had

897
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:28,960
sugarcane to beat the band

898
00:41:35,790 --> 00:41:31,930
it went away after World War two for a

899
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:35,800
while but when the oil crisis of the

900
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:40,330
late 70s came into play unlike the other

901
00:41:45,630 --> 00:41:42,010
countries in Latin America which

902
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:45,640
borrowed money to buy oil Brazil said

903
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:48,910
none of that and they had a within one

904
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:51,130
generations memory of running the

905
00:41:54,270 --> 00:41:53,530
country on alcohol so they went right

906
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:54,280
back to it

907
00:42:02,460 --> 00:41:59,290
and today 95% of the cars in Brazil run

908
00:42:04,410 --> 00:42:02,470
on straight alcohol and unlike the other

909
00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:04,420
countries in Latin America they don't

910
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:07,870
have any foreign debt you know we when

911
00:42:12,690 --> 00:42:09,850
we lent money for something that gets

912
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:12,700
used up almost instantly to Latin

913
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:14,770
America we put them in debt forever

914
00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:18,190
right God do you think someone had a

915
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:22,060
plan about that one you know so so

916
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:24,010
anyway Brazil didn't in Brazil is the

917
00:42:31,260 --> 00:42:28,960
powerhouse economy of Latin America and

918
00:42:32,610 --> 00:42:31,270
you know depending on who you talk to

919
00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:32,620
you their economy might even be better

920
00:42:39,450 --> 00:42:37,000
than ours so so you know I'm people in

921
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:39,460
Brazil who grow sugar cane they're

922
00:42:44,970 --> 00:42:41,890
unionized it's the biggest union in

923
00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:44,980
Brazil the sugar cane workers and they

924
00:42:49,830 --> 00:42:48,190
get a fair shake you know because the

925
00:42:52,890 --> 00:42:49,840
whole country depends on them not just

926
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:52,900
for sugar but for energy so you know

927
00:42:57,870 --> 00:42:55,810
once you start empowering farmers with

928
00:43:01,110 --> 00:42:57,880
the energy production of this country

929
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:01,120
they suddenly get a voice because you

930
00:43:04,890 --> 00:43:02,710
know what they're providing is something

931
00:43:08,370 --> 00:43:04,900
people need and that's what we all need

932
00:43:10,050 --> 00:43:08,380
is organization and a voice and how

933
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:10,060
things get done I mean that is the

934
00:43:15,210 --> 00:43:13,510
quaint idea of democracy that we kind of

935
00:43:16,250 --> 00:43:15,220
have a say in how we get governed you

936
00:43:18,740 --> 00:43:16,260
know

937
00:43:21,550 --> 00:43:18,750
the way you get that say is with

938
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:21,560
economic power and so producing energy

939
00:43:27,620 --> 00:43:24,510
that's the way to do it yeah and this

940
00:43:30,109 --> 00:43:27,630
could clearly replace oils but I mean

941
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:30,119
even in the era of nuclear meltdowns in

942
00:43:36,609 --> 00:43:33,810
Japan could this could go far enough to

943
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:36,619
replace nuclear energy

944
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:39,690
absolutely nuclear energy in the u.s. is

945
00:43:45,620 --> 00:43:43,170
about 20% of our electricity and then if

946
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:45,630
coal is the next big one in natural gas

947
00:43:51,849 --> 00:43:48,000
and then there's small parts that go to

948
00:43:54,980 --> 00:43:51,859
you know hydroelectric which is clean

949
00:43:58,070 --> 00:43:54,990
but controversial and a little tiny bit

950
00:43:59,540 --> 00:43:58,080
of renewable energy so one of our one of

951
00:44:02,630 --> 00:43:59,550
the big numbers we've got to replace

952
00:44:05,570 --> 00:44:02,640
well it's coal and nuclear primarily so

953
00:44:07,609 --> 00:44:05,580
in the United States we have the

954
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:07,619
potential and the United States is a

955
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:10,290
good case because we are the energy pigs

956
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:12,690
of the world we use about a quarter of

957
00:44:16,849 --> 00:44:14,880
all the energy in the world so if you

958
00:44:19,540 --> 00:44:16,859
could replace it here you can do it

959
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:19,550
anywhere so the United States by

960
00:44:24,770 --> 00:44:22,170
switching up some of the crops it uses

961
00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:24,780
to make alcohol away from corn which is

962
00:44:30,609 --> 00:44:27,300
a low yield alcohol crop to ones that

963
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:30,619
yield 3 or 10 times as much as corn

964
00:44:36,890 --> 00:44:35,010
things like again sugar beets or sorghum

965
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:36,900
you know things that are more productive

966
00:44:44,090 --> 00:44:40,530
per acre we can replace not only all the

967
00:44:46,490 --> 00:44:44,100
nuclear power and we could use the

968
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,500
nuclear facilities because the turbines

969
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:48,720
at those places work perfectly fine but

970
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:50,480
we could run them on alcohol instead

971
00:44:57,530 --> 00:44:54,450
shut down the reactor we can also we

972
00:44:59,420 --> 00:44:57,540
could also replace all the cold Wow same

973
00:45:02,030 --> 00:44:59,430
thing we could use all their equipment

974
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:02,040
to produce electricity and shut down the

975
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:05,910
coal boilers you know and we could also

976
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:09,510
replace all the gasoline and diesel that

977
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:12,210
run the vehicles that this is because

978
00:45:17,810 --> 00:45:15,090
alcohol is made from solar energy which

979
00:45:19,790 --> 00:45:17,820
as you might have noticed uh falls

980
00:45:21,380 --> 00:45:19,800
everywhere doesn't just fall in this

981
00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:21,390
place or that place you know it's like

982
00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:24,900
you can't monopolize solar energy so we

983
00:45:28,730 --> 00:45:26,609
can make alcohol with different

984
00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:28,740
different crops different plants and

985
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:29,640
waste

986
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:32,250
products everywhere it's about as

987
00:45:37,759 --> 00:45:35,609
democratic a fuel as you can get but the

988
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,769
quantities we can get because the amount

989
00:45:43,099 --> 00:45:40,079
of energy that hits the earth from from

990
00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:43,109
the Sun is truly immense instead of

991
00:45:50,299 --> 00:45:46,440
these little dinky monopolized energy

992
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:50,309
supplies like you know : oil so the

993
00:45:56,019 --> 00:45:53,130
whole world could actually be running on

994
00:45:59,539 --> 00:45:56,029
alcohol in as little as ten years huh

995
00:46:01,069 --> 00:45:59,549
Wow and it's a you say it's a natural

996
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:01,079
process let's talk about that a little

997
00:46:04,579 --> 00:46:02,730
bit because obviously there's the

998
00:46:07,220 --> 00:46:04,589
alcohol you drink and is this is the

999
00:46:09,250 --> 00:46:07,230
only difference between fuel and alcohol

1000
00:46:12,349 --> 00:46:09,260
you would drink the strength of it

1001
00:46:14,509 --> 00:46:12,359
that's right it's it's the same stuff

1002
00:46:17,180 --> 00:46:14,519
although when you make alcohol it's not

1003
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:17,190
like you're fine pilsner beer which you

1004
00:46:24,049 --> 00:46:20,730
keep in a cave for 15 days so it

1005
00:46:25,940 --> 00:46:24,059
ferments slowly and has great flavor we

1006
00:46:29,470 --> 00:46:25,950
ferment this stuff in like one to three

1007
00:46:33,319 --> 00:46:29,480
days and it's nasty so as we say it

1008
00:46:36,589 --> 00:46:33,329
alcohol can be a gas we say drink the

1009
00:46:38,089 --> 00:46:36,599
best and then drive the rest so you know

1010
00:46:41,029 --> 00:46:38,099
we don't recommend using this for a

1011
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:41,039
beverage even though it's illegal which

1012
00:46:43,819 --> 00:46:42,240
wouldn't usually stop me from

1013
00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:43,829
recommending it but in this case it

1014
00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:45,390
tastes horrible

1015
00:46:50,269 --> 00:46:47,940
and that's often the Tres byproducts

1016
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:50,279
from the east poop you know the by

1017
00:46:54,650 --> 00:46:52,170
controlling a lot of conditions and

1018
00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:54,660
taking a longer time to ferment you can

1019
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:57,089
make perfectly good sipping whiskey but

1020
00:47:03,920 --> 00:46:59,839
you know we're not trying to do that so

1021
00:47:06,140 --> 00:47:03,930
alcohol is is the very same stuff it's

1022
00:47:10,430 --> 00:47:06,150
just the byproducts that give flavor to

1023
00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:10,440
the different kinds of liquor so when it

1024
00:47:15,380 --> 00:47:12,630
comes to making alcohol it's pretty

1025
00:47:19,279 --> 00:47:15,390
straightforward we take the raw material

1026
00:47:21,620 --> 00:47:19,289
let's say it's sugar cane or sorghum we

1027
00:47:24,589 --> 00:47:21,630
squeeze it to get the sugary juice out

1028
00:47:26,569 --> 00:47:24,599
and then we usually heat it up to

1029
00:47:29,779 --> 00:47:26,579
sterilize it because we don't want to

1030
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:29,789
lose our alcohol to other organisms and

1031
00:47:36,049 --> 00:47:33,960
then we feed it to east the same yeast

1032
00:47:39,170 --> 00:47:36,059
that make wine or beer actually or even

1033
00:47:40,910 --> 00:47:39,180
bread that's the same east they eat the

1034
00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:40,920
sugar as I said earlier and they poop

1035
00:47:45,570 --> 00:47:42,190
out the alcohol

1036
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:45,580
breathe out co2 and then we distill it

1037
00:47:51,930 --> 00:47:49,330
into fuel now I repeated that because I

1038
00:47:55,850 --> 00:47:51,940
want to go back now to what makes the

1039
00:47:58,860 --> 00:47:55,860
sugar or starch that we ferment so

1040
00:48:02,450 --> 00:47:58,870
alcohol or I should say carbohydrates

1041
00:48:06,450 --> 00:48:02,460
are made from carbo carbon dioxide

1042
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:06,460
hydrate which is water so carbohydrates

1043
00:48:13,590 --> 00:48:10,240
plants produce from carbon dioxide water

1044
00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:13,600
and sunlight sunlight is the power that

1045
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:16,120
glues together the carbon dioxide and

1046
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:22,000
water so the the resulting sugars are

1047
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:24,160
what we ferment and what we end up with

1048
00:48:31,290 --> 00:48:28,480
is liquid solar energy as a fuel now how

1049
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:31,300
does that work when you burn the alcohol

1050
00:48:36,810 --> 00:48:34,330
in your car and you explode it to drive

1051
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:36,820
yourself down the road what goes out the

1052
00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:39,280
exhaust pipe is exactly what went in

1053
00:48:46,650 --> 00:48:44,140
carbon dioxide and water what drives

1054
00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:46,660
your car down the road is the exploding

1055
00:48:51,780 --> 00:48:48,790
solar energy that's contained in the

1056
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:51,790
fuel so you are literally driving on the

1057
00:48:56,730 --> 00:48:54,160
Sun when you burn alcohol in your car

1058
00:48:59,280 --> 00:48:56,740
and the carbon dioxide and water that

1059
00:49:01,710 --> 00:48:59,290
you send out the exhaust pipe is exactly

1060
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:01,720
the amount of carbon dioxide and water

1061
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:04,090
you need to make next year's alcohol

1062
00:49:10,290 --> 00:49:07,930
crop so you have a cycle going there

1063
00:49:12,420 --> 00:49:10,300
where you're not putting excess carbon

1064
00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:12,430
dioxide in the atmosphere you are

1065
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:15,760
recycling it over and over again so if

1066
00:49:20,970 --> 00:49:18,490
you want to stop climate change you got

1067
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:20,980
to stop burning fossil fuels it doesn't

1068
00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:23,110
matter if we have a thousand years with

1069
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:26,350
a natural gas we'd be dead long before

1070
00:49:31,650 --> 00:49:28,690
that thousand years if we keep burning

1071
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:31,660
that stuff so we have to switch to

1072
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:33,370
something that doesn't add to the

1073
00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:35,890
atmosphere and alcohol is one of the few

1074
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:38,230
things that does that now you know I

1075
00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:41,920
wrote this book alcohol can be a gas to

1076
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:44,230
give activists and farmers and

1077
00:49:49,530 --> 00:49:47,770
entrepreneurs the tool the toolkit to be

1078
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:49,540
able to build their own equipment and

1079
00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:52,090
start their own local cooperatives or

1080
00:49:57,410 --> 00:49:55,020
businesses to be able to

1081
00:49:59,870 --> 00:49:57,420
uh you know get give people the choice

1082
00:50:03,890 --> 00:49:59,880
and that's what it's all about is choice

1083
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:03,900
to not use gasoline and I got to tell

1084
00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:06,330
you man the first time you go to an

1085
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:09,510
alcohol station and are 2,500 in the

1086
00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:12,480
United States and you fill your car up

1087
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:15,000
with alcohol and especially if you do it

1088
00:50:19,820 --> 00:50:17,400
at home when you fill up your out car

1089
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:19,830
with alcohol you not only screw the oil

1090
00:50:24,590 --> 00:50:22,290
companies but you also screw the IRS

1091
00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:24,600
because there are various states have

1092
00:50:29,150 --> 00:50:26,760
various tax credits and stuff for using

1093
00:50:31,970 --> 00:50:29,160
alcohol and you know there isn't a

1094
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:31,980
better day standing up than being able

1095
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:34,050
to screw the IRS a.m. oil companies I

1096
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:36,510
agree two birds with one stone but who

1097
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:39,810
knew it was so simple and I guess to

1098
00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:42,450
give people one example of how they

1099
00:50:47,150 --> 00:50:43,950
could use this information you have a

1100
00:50:49,550 --> 00:50:47,160
pretty interesting story about how you

1101
00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:49,560
went use this information and partnered

1102
00:50:54,890 --> 00:50:51,660
with a local donut shop near you to make

1103
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:54,900
alcohol right oh yeah well she waste

1104
00:50:59,180 --> 00:50:56,880
products are something we promote

1105
00:51:00,920 --> 00:50:59,190
heavily in our in the book the alcohol

1106
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:00,930
can be a gas book we even talk about it

1107
00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:01,710
on our website

1108
00:51:07,250 --> 00:51:05,430
with the same name but when I lived in

1109
00:51:09,710 --> 00:51:07,260
San Francisco when I first started

1110
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:09,720
making alcohol not exactly a place where

1111
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:12,450
you can find a lot of crops you know so

1112
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:15,660
uh but I figured Donuts

1113
00:51:18,980 --> 00:51:17,130
well donuts what are they made of

1114
00:51:21,550 --> 00:51:18,990
they're made of starch and white flour

1115
00:51:25,790 --> 00:51:21,560
and they're made of sugar lots of sugar

1116
00:51:28,010 --> 00:51:25,800
so I went to a donut shop and you know

1117
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:28,020
here I was nineteen not exactly quite

1118
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,090
confident you know that I could do this

1119
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:32,160
and I went there with my pickup truck

1120
00:51:38,420 --> 00:51:35,610
and some drums and I said well maybe you

1121
00:51:40,220 --> 00:51:38,430
guys would be okay with me like taking

1122
00:51:41,690 --> 00:51:40,230
your waste Donuts away you know I could

1123
00:51:45,110 --> 00:51:41,700
leave these drums here and you could

1124
00:51:48,110 --> 00:51:45,120
fill them up and the guy says done you

1125
00:51:50,780 --> 00:51:48,120
know cost us a lot to get rid of all the

1126
00:51:51,950 --> 00:51:50,790
waste donuts so so I leave the drums

1127
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:51,960
that are figuring they'll call me in a

1128
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:53,610
week or two you know and I'll pick up

1129
00:51:59,410 --> 00:51:55,890
the donuts and I'll make alcohol in this

1130
00:52:01,610 --> 00:51:59,420
little warehouse that I had rented so

1131
00:52:05,499 --> 00:52:01,620
the next morning at 6:00 in the morning

1132
00:52:07,870 --> 00:52:05,509
I get a call and say they're full

1133
00:52:10,299 --> 00:52:07,880
so on down to the donut place I take

1134
00:52:11,739 --> 00:52:10,309
them away you know spend like several

1135
00:52:15,429 --> 00:52:11,749
hours that day figuring out how to make

1136
00:52:18,009 --> 00:52:15,439
alcohol from them go home exhausted go

1137
00:52:19,749 --> 00:52:18,019
to sleep and a six o'clock the next

1138
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:19,759
morning they call up and say they're

1139
00:52:26,139 --> 00:52:23,839
full oh no sigh right down there well

1140
00:52:28,419 --> 00:52:26,149
you got to understand there's one other

1141
00:52:31,659 --> 00:52:28,429
thing that that's in Donuts and that's

1142
00:52:33,879 --> 00:52:31,669
fat right because they're deep-fried so

1143
00:52:37,059 --> 00:52:33,889
what I discovered that first day making

1144
00:52:40,059 --> 00:52:37,069
the alcohol is that all the donut

1145
00:52:42,759 --> 00:52:40,069
liquefied when I added my enzymes and my

1146
00:52:45,939 --> 00:52:42,769
various potions and it dissolved but the

1147
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:45,949
fat floated on top was a foot thick you

1148
00:52:50,769 --> 00:52:47,209
know on top my tank

1149
00:52:52,329 --> 00:52:50,779
so my fermentation tank so I had to

1150
00:52:55,029 --> 00:52:52,339
figure out what to do with it so I

1151
00:52:56,919 --> 00:52:55,039
looked at my compost pile and said okay

1152
00:52:59,469 --> 00:52:56,929
that's where it goes and I had a nice

1153
00:53:01,449 --> 00:52:59,479
big compost pile going so I sprayed all

1154
00:53:04,149 --> 00:53:01,459
the grease over the compost pile and

1155
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:04,159
mixed it in and of course compost pile

1156
00:53:09,819 --> 00:53:07,249
in love I mean it just started really

1157
00:53:11,979 --> 00:53:09,829
getting hot really really going fast was

1158
00:53:14,109 --> 00:53:11,989
great food for the microbes so the

1159
00:53:15,819 --> 00:53:14,119
second day I go there and I get all this

1160
00:53:17,169 --> 00:53:15,829
stuff and I have a whole bunch of fat

1161
00:53:20,049 --> 00:53:17,179
leftover and I put it in the compost

1162
00:53:23,859 --> 00:53:20,059
pile but I'm thinking maybe I need a

1163
00:53:26,469 --> 00:53:23,869
bigger compost pile the third day I get

1164
00:53:28,299 --> 00:53:26,479
there and I have all this fat and the

1165
00:53:31,209 --> 00:53:28,309
compost piles looking back up at me and

1166
00:53:33,939 --> 00:53:31,219
it says no you don't you don't put that

1167
00:53:36,219 --> 00:53:33,949
stuff on me I go what am I going to do

1168
00:53:37,689 --> 00:53:36,229
with all this fat you know and thought

1169
00:53:41,489 --> 00:53:37,699
about it and thought about it and you

1170
00:53:43,449 --> 00:53:41,499
know what I do in life is show people

1171
00:53:45,729 --> 00:53:43,459
permaculture which is permanent

1172
00:53:48,879 --> 00:53:45,739
agriculture or permaculture part of our

1173
00:53:52,929 --> 00:53:48,889
concept is you look for surpluses that

1174
00:53:55,419 --> 00:53:52,939
are not being used and find a use for

1175
00:53:57,459 --> 00:53:55,429
them right so I look at the surplus fat

1176
00:54:01,689 --> 00:53:57,469
and I go gosh what am I going to do with

1177
00:54:04,359 --> 00:54:01,699
this let's see fat fat fat 180,000 BTUs

1178
00:54:06,669 --> 00:54:04,369
per countenance a lot of energy then I

1179
00:54:09,999 --> 00:54:06,679
look at my still burning wood for the

1180
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:10,009
heat I say oh I got it now so I put a

1181
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:13,849
55-gallon drum next to the still and I

1182
00:54:19,339 --> 00:54:16,710
plumbed a tube down into the fire

1183
00:54:22,370 --> 00:54:19,349
and I threw all the fat in the drum and

1184
00:54:24,890 --> 00:54:22,380
I dripped it onto the firewood and

1185
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:24,900
treated the firewood like a wick in the

1186
00:54:31,339 --> 00:54:27,839
bottom of my distillery and I heated my

1187
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:31,349
whole process with the fat that came off

1188
00:54:35,180 --> 00:54:33,089
the done it so here was a feedstock for

1189
00:54:37,970 --> 00:54:35,190
making alcohol that came with its own

1190
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:37,980
energy supply to distill itself so I

1191
00:54:42,620 --> 00:54:41,130
made alcohol for 10 cents a gallon from

1192
00:54:45,470 --> 00:54:42,630
Donuts and I could do the same thing

1193
00:54:46,730 --> 00:54:45,480
today jeez yeah that's an awesome story

1194
00:54:49,339 --> 00:54:46,740
and there's probably endless

1195
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:49,349
possibilities similar to that story that

1196
00:54:54,799 --> 00:54:51,690
people could start you doing to get

1197
00:54:56,359 --> 00:54:54,809
creative and doing themselves right well

1198
00:54:58,010 --> 00:54:56,369
a lot of those stories are in my book

1199
00:55:00,740 --> 00:54:58,020
alcohol can be a guess and they're not

1200
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:00,750
all my stories because I taught over

1201
00:55:06,049 --> 00:55:03,690
8,000 students how to make alcohol over

1202
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:06,059
a period of years and of course they'd

1203
00:55:10,849 --> 00:55:08,010
all right me with their successes so a

1204
00:55:13,099 --> 00:55:10,859
lot of the side bars next to the text

1205
00:55:15,769 --> 00:55:13,109
the little stories there are stories of

1206
00:55:17,930 --> 00:55:15,779
me me and my students doing all these

1207
00:55:20,930 --> 00:55:17,940
creative things in our communities to

1208
00:55:22,819 --> 00:55:20,940
make alcohol that's awesome so let's

1209
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:22,829
let's talk a little more about using

1210
00:55:27,410 --> 00:55:25,170
alcohol as a fuel for our cars there's a

1211
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,420
lot of myths out there perpetuated by

1212
00:55:31,940 --> 00:55:29,520
the big oil industry that have everyone

1213
00:55:33,769 --> 00:55:31,950
confused on the issue give us the facts

1214
00:55:35,329 --> 00:55:33,779
on cars today could we just walk out and

1215
00:55:40,099 --> 00:55:35,339
pour alcohol in our tanks without

1216
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:40,109
damaging the car the answer is partially

1217
00:55:48,620 --> 00:55:44,160
yes and you got to remember that cars

1218
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:48,630
first ran on alcohol so gasoline is the

1219
00:55:55,549 --> 00:55:53,490
after law right and so from every basic

1220
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:55,559
point of view alcohol works great in a

1221
00:56:01,779 --> 00:55:58,559
car but you know car materials have

1222
00:56:07,970 --> 00:56:01,789
changed you know somewhat since the

1223
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:07,980
early part of the the century so so

1224
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:10,650
basically what it comes down to is your

1225
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:13,650
car is now run by a computer instead of

1226
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:16,170
a carburetor for those of you who don't

1227
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:17,640
know what I'm talking about

1228
00:56:25,220 --> 00:56:22,529
before 1980 most cars had an air fuel

1229
00:56:27,769 --> 00:56:25,230
mixing device called a carburetor so air

1230
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:27,779
rushed through it fuel spray it into it

1231
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:29,609
basically and it mixed on its way to the

1232
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:30,210
engine

1233
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:33,810
now today we have fuel injection which

1234
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:36,240
puts a squirt of fuel in front of every

1235
00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:40,170
cylinder and a very specific timing and

1236
00:56:43,790 --> 00:56:42,180
it's all controlled by a computer and

1237
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:43,800
the reason why is to get things perfect

1238
00:56:51,710 --> 00:56:46,770
so it has low emissions and it's a great

1239
00:56:54,170 --> 00:56:51,720
system but what we do is look at that

1240
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:54,180
computer and say how smart is it how

1241
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:56,370
much can it adjust the air fuel mixture

1242
00:57:03,650 --> 00:56:59,280
well it turns out that virtually every

1243
00:57:08,540 --> 00:57:03,660
car can run 50 percent alcohol without a

1244
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:08,550
single change to the engine Wow so I

1245
00:57:13,070 --> 00:57:09,810
want to I just want to make that clear

1246
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:13,080
you can get rid of half of your oil

1247
00:57:21,170 --> 00:57:17,520
swill with alcohol without changing

1248
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:21,180
anything in your engine so now why is

1249
00:57:27,590 --> 00:57:23,760
that significant if you look at where we

1250
00:57:29,420 --> 00:57:27,600
get oil now it is 30 percent only 30

1251
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:29,430
percent of our oil comes from the Middle

1252
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:32,730
East so that means if we just switch to

1253
00:57:38,180 --> 00:57:35,910
30 percent alcohol we wouldn't have to

1254
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:38,190
change anything about all the cars in

1255
00:57:43,580 --> 00:57:41,010
the United States and we would eliminate

1256
00:57:48,140 --> 00:57:43,590
the need for Mideast oil and therefore

1257
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:48,150
having troops there bases there any of

1258
00:57:53,630 --> 00:57:50,490
that stuff which is hundreds of billions

1259
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:53,640
of dollars a year out of our tax dollars

1260
00:58:00,140 --> 00:57:56,720
so you could leave the middle-east alone

1261
00:58:02,990 --> 00:58:00,150
right and would have all the fuel we

1262
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,000
need and never worry about a cut off

1263
00:58:09,350 --> 00:58:05,760
from those guys and not participate in

1264
00:58:11,660 --> 00:58:09,360
their darn religious wars you know let

1265
00:58:14,180 --> 00:58:11,670
them settle it out themselves oh man it

1266
00:58:16,430 --> 00:58:14,190
would work out so great for almost

1267
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:16,440
everyone just except for the few people

1268
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:18,510
who hold the reins to actually make the

1269
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:19,290
change happen

1270
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:22,290
well military contractors would cry

1271
00:58:27,050 --> 00:58:24,720
bloody murder because they're making you

1272
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:27,060
know gazillions of dollars off the so

1273
00:58:31,370 --> 00:58:29,330
called war and terrorism the Middle East

1274
00:58:33,620 --> 00:58:31,380
man this is such great information

1275
00:58:35,540 --> 00:58:33,630
because I've seen Ethan all at the pump

1276
00:58:37,070 --> 00:58:35,550
I think he 15 and I've just been afraid

1277
00:58:41,180 --> 00:58:37,080
to use it I thought I'd need something

1278
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:41,190
special and I just got spooked out well

1279
00:58:43,940 --> 00:58:43,200
you're spooked out because in the

1280
00:58:46,250 --> 00:58:43,950
background

1281
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:46,260
in the back of your unconscious you've

1282
00:58:51,970 --> 00:58:49,440
heard thousands of media hits about how

1283
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:51,980
alcohol is bad for your car it's it's

1284
00:58:56,810 --> 00:58:54,810
it's invisible you can't point to why

1285
00:58:59,960 --> 00:58:56,820
you feel that way you can't point to an

1286
00:59:02,270 --> 00:58:59,970
article or whatever it's a saturation of

1287
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:02,280
the media every day there's a negative

1288
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:05,450
alcohol story out there they're all

1289
00:59:11,060 --> 00:59:07,650
fabricated by the American Petroleum

1290
00:59:13,370 --> 00:59:11,070
Institute so you know if it's like The

1291
00:59:15,890 --> 00:59:13,380
Wizard of Oz don't look at the man

1292
00:59:19,010 --> 00:59:15,900
behind the curtain if you look there

1293
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:19,020
you'd see alcohol right and alcohol

1294
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:21,690
would be dangerous because it would

1295
00:59:24,530 --> 00:59:23,609
change the balance of power in the

1296
00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:24,540
United States

1297
00:59:34,970 --> 00:59:28,980
so basically alcohol is not harmful to

1298
00:59:37,790 --> 00:59:34,980
any material in a car since 1983 now my

1299
00:59:41,060 --> 00:59:37,800
buddy Tom Harvey and I we went into the

1300
00:59:43,790 --> 00:59:41,070
Ford Motor plant in the Rouge plant in

1301
00:59:47,089 --> 00:59:43,800
Detroit and we went through that that

1302
00:59:51,140 --> 00:59:47,099
factory with the permission to film the

1303
00:59:54,859 --> 00:59:51,150
assembly line you know assembly so to

1304
00:59:57,620 --> 00:59:54,869
speak of the fuel system so we were

1305
01:00:00,920 --> 00:59:57,630
there to see what different parts are

1306
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:00,930
used for alcohol tolerant trucks the

1307
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:02,730
Flex fuel trucks that can run on both

1308
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:08,160
alcohol or gas or gasoline alone so we

1309
01:00:11,450 --> 01:00:09,690
go down the assembly line started

1310
01:00:13,460 --> 01:00:11,460
starting at the gas tape which oil

1311
01:00:15,230 --> 01:00:13,470
companies say Oh alcohol will eat the

1312
01:00:17,630 --> 01:00:15,240
plastic of your gas tank and they'll be

1313
01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:17,640
holes in it you know and we talked to

1314
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:20,510
the forklift driver who's loading these

1315
01:00:27,230 --> 01:00:23,730
these gas tanks right onto the chassis

1316
01:00:29,180 --> 01:00:27,240
of the the trucks and we asked them what

1317
01:00:31,819 --> 01:00:29,190
which one is the special alcohol

1318
01:00:35,329 --> 01:00:31,829
resistant gas tank and he looks at us

1319
01:00:38,089 --> 01:00:35,339
and says that stack is for the 150s that

1320
01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:38,099
stack is for the 250s and that's for the

1321
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:40,260
350s and we go well where's the alcohol

1322
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:43,290
stack he goes they aren't in there

1323
01:00:48,109 --> 01:00:46,410
there's no such thing okay and and by

1324
01:00:51,050 --> 01:00:48,119
the way all this information we gave to

1325
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:51,060
the producers of the movie pump and all

1326
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:53,010
this has been repeated in the movie so

1327
01:00:57,290 --> 01:00:55,050
it's going to go out to more people but

1328
01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:57,300
at any rate a

1329
01:01:00,920 --> 01:00:59,040
we went on to the next thing we went on

1330
01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:00,930
to the fuel pump that they drop into the

1331
01:01:06,950 --> 01:01:03,510
tank we said well there's three bins

1332
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:06,960
here it says 150 250 350 where is the

1333
01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:08,970
bin for the flex fuel fuel pumps because

1334
01:01:15,170 --> 01:01:11,280
the oil companies say it'll destroy your

1335
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:15,180
fuel pump Ike says uh these are the

1336
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:17,970
three bins this is all we put in you

1337
01:01:21,470 --> 01:01:19,290
know and we went through the whole fuel

1338
01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:21,480
system this way we get to the the fuel

1339
01:01:25,130 --> 01:01:23,760
lines that go on the frame up to you

1340
01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:25,140
know up to the fuel injectors in the

1341
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:27,510
engine and you know I said well the oil

1342
01:01:31,460 --> 01:01:29,310
companies say that those fuel lines have

1343
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:31,470
to be stainless steel or alcohol will

1344
01:01:37,010 --> 01:01:35,250
eat them up and the guy says uh this is

1345
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:37,020
mild steel and this is all the fuel

1346
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:38,850
lines we use including the flex fuel

1347
01:01:44,450 --> 01:01:41,850
vehicles so we get to the end and we

1348
01:01:47,150 --> 01:01:44,460
asked the shift supervisor who was you

1349
01:01:50,060 --> 01:01:47,160
know escorting us to the plant we said

1350
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:50,070
so what is the difference between a

1351
01:01:54,380 --> 01:01:52,170
truck that can run on both alcohol and

1352
01:01:58,310 --> 01:01:54,390
gas or one that can only run and gas he

1353
01:02:00,800 --> 01:01:58,320
goes what software we just have a little

1354
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:00,810
different software in the chip that

1355
01:02:07,220 --> 01:02:04,110
gives us a wider range of air fuel

1356
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:07,230
mixtures then the normal chip does and

1357
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:09,690
it costs us about 20 30 bucks and

1358
01:02:14,210 --> 01:02:12,480
development costs per chip to do that so

1359
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:14,220
the difference between a vehicle that

1360
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:17,760
will run on 100% alcohol and gasoline or

1361
01:02:23,660 --> 01:02:21,210
just gasoline is just a few dollars on

1362
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:23,670
the assembly line so it was really funny

1363
01:02:28,490 --> 01:02:27,210
though Tom I pack up and we say thank

1364
01:02:30,470 --> 01:02:28,500
you thank you and we get out of there

1365
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:30,480
because we suspect if somebody would

1366
01:02:34,970 --> 01:02:32,490
figure out that maybe we shouldn't be

1367
01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:34,980
filming this you know and we're driving

1368
01:02:38,750 --> 01:02:37,200
down the road as we leave and you know

1369
01:02:42,770 --> 01:02:38,760
they call Tom you know this shift

1370
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:42,780
supervisor says ah gee do you think you

1371
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:44,970
could bring that tape back I'm not sure

1372
01:02:50,270 --> 01:02:46,890
I was supposed to say all those things

1373
01:02:52,250 --> 01:02:50,280
Tom said oh no of course not you know

1374
01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:52,260
we're not bringing you back and you

1375
01:02:58,820 --> 01:02:54,480
don't have to worry you didn't say

1376
01:03:00,560 --> 01:02:58,830
anything too damaging oh wow

1377
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:00,570
so anyway yeah we got that tape we want

1378
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:02,490
to edit that one together and put that

1379
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:04,890
out about you know all the stuff they

1380
01:03:10,089 --> 01:03:06,960
say about how your car is destroyed by

1381
01:03:12,489 --> 01:03:10,099
alcohol is a complete and total lie

1382
01:03:14,469 --> 01:03:12,499
and and it just doesn't happen now

1383
01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:14,479
what's the real truth propaganda the way

1384
01:03:21,759 --> 01:03:17,440
propaganda works is not only is it

1385
01:03:27,130 --> 01:03:21,769
untrue but usually the opposite is true

1386
01:03:30,849 --> 01:03:27,140
and so we end up with a situation where

1387
01:03:33,579 --> 01:03:30,859
you've got mechanics and and pressing

1388
01:03:34,989 --> 01:03:33,589
alcohol will wreck your car but the

1389
01:03:37,269 --> 01:03:34,999
opposite is true

1390
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:37,279
alcohol burns clean as we mentioned

1391
01:03:42,759 --> 01:03:40,970
earlier it's actually so pollution free

1392
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:42,769
it doesn't even show up on most

1393
01:03:47,049 --> 01:03:44,930
pollution test equipment and that means

1394
01:03:49,420 --> 01:03:47,059
there's no carbon in your engine your

1395
01:03:52,329 --> 01:03:49,430
oil never turns black

1396
01:03:55,210 --> 01:03:52,339
it burns cooler than gasoline these

1397
01:03:58,259 --> 01:03:55,220
things all add up to tripling engine

1398
01:04:01,239 --> 01:03:58,269
life so not only is it not true that

1399
01:04:04,210 --> 01:04:01,249
alcohol wrecks your car the real truth

1400
01:04:05,769 --> 01:04:04,220
is it triples engine life gosh do you

1401
01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:05,779
think there might be someone who's upset

1402
01:04:12,089 --> 01:04:09,680
about that right so you know the the

1403
01:04:15,579 --> 01:04:12,099
propaganda runs thick around alcohol

1404
01:04:17,769 --> 01:04:15,589
yeah and the in the consumer culture and

1405
01:04:20,109 --> 01:04:17,779
capitalism planned obsolescence is

1406
01:04:21,819 --> 01:04:20,119
definitely a pillar of how a lot of

1407
01:04:23,529 --> 01:04:21,829
these big companies work and that is

1408
01:04:25,479 --> 01:04:23,539
making sure that products are going to

1409
01:04:27,099 --> 01:04:25,489
break down you know a lot sooner than

1410
01:04:29,349 --> 01:04:27,109
they need to is that you have to go out

1411
01:04:31,089 --> 01:04:29,359
and get that new product and this falls

1412
01:04:32,910 --> 01:04:31,099
right in line with that they break down

1413
01:04:34,870 --> 01:04:32,920
one month after your warranty's expired

1414
01:04:37,150 --> 01:04:34,880
right of course

1415
01:04:39,130 --> 01:04:37,160
no actually you know in defense of the

1416
01:04:42,519 --> 01:04:39,140
car companies I have to say that planned

1417
01:04:44,859 --> 01:04:42,529
obsolescence which was a strategy in the

1418
01:04:46,959 --> 01:04:44,869
70s to make cars break down after two or

1419
01:04:50,469 --> 01:04:46,969
three years so you'd buy new one that's

1420
01:04:53,140 --> 01:04:50,479
pretty gone people people have caught on

1421
01:04:55,420 --> 01:04:53,150
to that one and now what do you see you

1422
01:04:58,299 --> 01:04:55,430
see people looking at consumer reports

1423
01:05:00,969 --> 01:04:58,309
to see how much you know repair you need

1424
01:05:02,469 --> 01:05:00,979
over the time you run the car so when I

1425
01:05:05,969 --> 01:05:02,479
look at American cars today especially

1426
01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:05,979
Ford uh you know we're looking at uh

1427
01:05:11,229 --> 01:05:08,569
we're looking at very very well

1428
01:05:15,999 --> 01:05:11,239
engineered cars now there's an exciting

1429
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:16,009
development which is Cummins now Cummins

1430
01:05:21,849 --> 01:05:18,650
is generally credited with being a

1431
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:21,859
diesel engine manufacturer but since

1432
01:05:27,359 --> 01:05:23,569
alcohol is a

1433
01:05:30,969 --> 01:05:27,369
105 octane compared to gasoline being 87

1434
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:30,979
that means you can squeeze the alcohol

1435
01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:33,920
mixture much more before you fire it

1436
01:05:39,969 --> 01:05:37,369
then you can gasoline if you do it to

1437
01:05:42,549 --> 01:05:39,979
gasoline in a diesel type engine the

1438
01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:42,559
gasoline just explodes from being

1439
01:05:49,180 --> 01:05:45,049
squeezed too much because it has a such

1440
01:05:50,799 --> 01:05:49,190
a low octane rating so Cummins has gone

1441
01:05:54,759 --> 01:05:50,809
out they're taking their heavy-duty

1442
01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:54,769
diesel engines and develop an alcohol

1443
01:05:59,680 --> 01:05:57,680
only engine that makes use of that extra

1444
01:06:04,719 --> 01:05:59,690
strength engine and they're getting

1445
01:06:07,209 --> 01:06:04,729
better mileage more power and it's being

1446
01:06:12,009 --> 01:06:07,219
done at half the size of the normal

1447
01:06:16,569 --> 01:06:12,019
diesel engine so a 2.9 liter engine is

1448
01:06:19,870 --> 01:06:16,579
having the same horsepower more as a 6.2

1449
01:06:22,660 --> 01:06:19,880
liter diesel engine so the alcohol

1450
01:06:26,529 --> 01:06:22,670
engine is smaller lighter uses less

1451
01:06:30,489 --> 01:06:26,539
materials gets better mileage and more

1452
01:06:33,329 --> 01:06:30,499
power and virtually no pollution so G so

1453
01:06:35,739 --> 01:06:33,339
Cummins is making them right now for

1454
01:06:36,999 --> 01:06:35,749
delivery trucks and that kind of thing

1455
01:06:40,209 --> 01:06:37,009
they were about to start selling them

1456
01:06:42,279 --> 01:06:40,219
but they intend to extend the line

1457
01:06:43,989 --> 01:06:42,289
upwards and downwards to full size

1458
01:06:46,569 --> 01:06:43,999
diesel trucks which would then be

1459
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:46,579
alcohol trucks and all the way down to

1460
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:49,039
cars because you know Cummins is the

1461
01:06:54,339 --> 01:06:51,410
biggest diesel engine manufacturer in

1462
01:06:56,319 --> 01:06:54,349
the world and they have now taken the

1463
01:06:59,229 --> 01:06:56,329
suggestions from people like myself and

1464
01:07:01,120 --> 01:06:59,239
other engineers to make dedicated

1465
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:01,130
alcohol engines and those engines will

1466
01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:03,890
last a million or two million miles

1467
01:07:11,739 --> 01:07:08,680
rather than a hundred thousand miles man

1468
01:07:13,239 --> 01:07:11,749
another thing that you're doing you

1469
01:07:15,459 --> 01:07:13,249
might have already done it as opening an

1470
01:07:16,689 --> 01:07:15,469
education facility in California is

1471
01:07:17,380 --> 01:07:16,699
that's still going on can you tell us

1472
01:07:19,269 --> 01:07:17,390
about that

1473
01:07:22,499 --> 01:07:19,279
oh yeah we bought a great piece of

1474
01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:22,509
property in near Santa Cruz our

1475
01:07:30,279 --> 01:07:26,569
distillery is almost done and we'll have

1476
01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:30,289
classes there in the future in how to

1477
01:07:36,729 --> 01:07:34,160
make alcohol fuel we'll also have we

1478
01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:36,739
have five acres of greenhouses so we'll

1479
01:07:39,670 --> 01:07:37,400
be able to

1480
01:07:42,610 --> 01:07:39,680
show different energy crops from around

1481
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:42,620
the world like in arid areas that will

1482
01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:44,930
be mesquite and Buffalo gourd and

1483
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:47,030
prickly pear cactus and the like and

1484
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:50,210
then in marshy areas will show cattails

1485
01:07:57,340 --> 01:07:54,050
to alcohol you know so all this will be

1486
01:08:00,580 --> 01:07:57,350
going on at our bloom distillation site

1487
01:08:03,610 --> 01:08:00,590
in Watsonville and there will be tours

1488
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:03,620
and there will be workshops and how to

1489
01:08:09,700 --> 01:08:06,650
make alcohol with sixty thousand gallon

1490
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:09,710
per year sized equipment right there on

1491
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:11,330
the campus and we'll have a lot of other

1492
01:08:15,850 --> 01:08:13,250
events too we have a big performance

1493
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:15,860
space we built there and we'll be able

1494
01:08:24,220 --> 01:08:19,010
to bring in important lecturers and you

1495
01:08:28,420 --> 01:08:24,230
can find all about this at either one of

1496
01:08:30,490 --> 01:08:28,430
our two websites what is alcohol can be

1497
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:30,500
a gas that's the name of the book and

1498
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:33,610
the website alcohol can be a gas and

1499
01:08:39,190 --> 01:08:37,250
then we have a new website that asked it

1500
01:08:42,130 --> 01:08:39,200
with our distillery manufacturing

1501
01:08:44,860 --> 01:08:42,140
company where we're building stills for

1502
01:08:48,010 --> 01:08:44,870
around the world for everything from

1503
01:08:51,940 --> 01:08:48,020
coffee coffee berry pulp to bananas too

1504
01:08:54,460 --> 01:08:51,950
you know cactus agave from the tequila

1505
01:08:56,230 --> 01:08:54,470
areas in other words these places all

1506
01:08:58,210 --> 01:08:56,240
have waste that we're going to be

1507
01:09:01,960 --> 01:08:58,220
building distilleries to process and

1508
01:09:04,180 --> 01:09:01,970
that's bloom distillation so you know

1509
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:04,190
they work because I put my name on it

1510
01:09:09,730 --> 01:09:06,110
you know exactly where it chased me if

1511
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:09,740
it doesn't work so uh so you can find

1512
01:09:15,010 --> 01:09:12,890
that at bloom distillation calm very

1513
01:09:16,390 --> 01:09:15,020
cool and do you let me it's kind of a

1514
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:16,400
weird question but I you know I am a

1515
01:09:19,900 --> 01:09:18,050
conspiracy guy do you ever worry about

1516
01:09:21,490 --> 01:09:19,910
your safety talking about this stuff it

1517
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:21,500
can be pretty dangerous to mess with the

1518
01:09:25,060 --> 01:09:23,510
profits of these shady industries have

1519
01:09:27,460 --> 01:09:25,070
you seen anybody get hurt or had any

1520
01:09:30,850 --> 01:09:27,470
problems yourself you know I was in New

1521
01:09:33,130 --> 01:09:30,860
Zealand once and this big Maori guy in

1522
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:33,140
the back of the the room you know tall I

1523
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:34,310
was talking about I'll called New

1524
01:09:38,740 --> 01:09:36,050
Zealand and they have kind of a

1525
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:38,750
Caribbean accent there so he gets up and

1526
01:09:45,550 --> 01:09:41,600
says I know get why you haven't been

1527
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:45,560
killed yet and so I said to the you know

1528
01:09:50,530 --> 01:09:48,290
I said to the the crowd well if anybody

1529
01:09:53,289 --> 01:09:50,540
sees a red dot form on my

1530
01:09:55,650 --> 01:09:53,299
4head will you please let me know you

1531
01:09:58,300 --> 01:09:55,660
know but in reality you know Greg

1532
01:10:00,820 --> 01:09:58,310
because I have my book alcohol can be a

1533
01:10:02,740 --> 01:10:00,830
gas out there you know if they kill me

1534
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:02,750
can you imagine what that would do to my

1535
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:06,110
book sales right it validates it well in

1536
01:10:10,330 --> 01:10:07,730
other words you know suddenly many more

1537
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:10,340
people would be reading about it but if

1538
01:10:12,970 --> 01:10:11,450
they were going to kill me they should

1539
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:12,980
have done it before I wrote the book so

1540
01:10:17,980 --> 01:10:15,050
now I feel pretty protected you know

1541
01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:17,990
right well that's a good answer so man I

1542
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:20,630
just had I had no idea how important

1543
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:22,880
this stuff was or how easy it was before

1544
01:10:27,130 --> 01:10:25,280
hearing you I was just a total victim of

1545
01:10:28,540 --> 01:10:27,140
the manipulation in this area and I'm so

1546
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:28,550
glad you came here to clarify the

1547
01:10:32,770 --> 01:10:31,010
subject two weeks ago it seems so

1548
01:10:34,540 --> 01:10:32,780
confusing now it seems so simple but

1549
01:10:36,220 --> 01:10:34,550
before we really called in would you

1550
01:10:38,020 --> 01:10:36,230
like to give people a little extra info

1551
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:38,030
about anything you're doing the website

1552
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:39,650
or maybe where they can catch this new

1553
01:10:44,710 --> 01:10:40,690
movie coming out

1554
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:44,720
well the premiere is happening this

1555
01:10:49,420 --> 01:10:47,360
weekend in the evening Friday and

1556
01:10:53,650 --> 01:10:49,430
Saturday night so feel free to come to

1557
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:53,660
that and that's in Santa Monica

1558
01:11:01,180 --> 01:10:56,410
at the Civic Center at the Longley

1559
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:01,190
Royale theater and you know in Saturday

1560
01:11:06,670 --> 01:11:03,110
we're having a performance at 3 o'clock

1561
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:06,680
at the alt car Expo which is also in

1562
01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:09,920
Santa Monica so you know we hope to see

1563
01:11:14,380 --> 01:11:12,710
you out there because if you think the

1564
01:11:16,530 --> 01:11:14,390
stuff that we're talking about is

1565
01:11:18,730 --> 01:11:16,540
exciting which you see us in real life

1566
01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:18,740
battling it out with the electric car

1567
01:11:21,490 --> 01:11:19,280
guys

1568
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:21,500
we're also shooting over to Santa Fe for

1569
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:23,210
those of you who over in that part of

1570
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:26,690
the country Friday the 26th we're going

1571
01:11:32,650 --> 01:11:30,650
to be doing a premiere for the for the

1572
01:11:35,620 --> 01:11:32,660
same movie pump so you should go to

1573
01:11:37,570 --> 01:11:35,630
their website and we're also going to be

1574
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:37,580
in Washington DC on the 10th of October

1575
01:11:42,490 --> 01:11:40,400
doing the same thing so we are out there

1576
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:42,500
making a lot of noise about this movie

1577
01:11:48,010 --> 01:11:44,960
because it totally indict the oil

1578
01:11:50,170 --> 01:11:48,020
companies for conspiracy right on well

1579
01:11:51,580 --> 01:11:50,180
David this has been a real pleasure you

1580
01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:51,590
know they say knowledge is power you

1581
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:53,150
just gave us the oil industry's

1582
01:11:56,590 --> 01:11:54,800
kryptonite and man so thanks again

1583
01:11:58,180 --> 01:11:56,600
thanks for all you're doing you're a

1584
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:58,190
real champion of the people so take care

1585
01:12:04,030 --> 01:11:59,360
of yourself out there

1586
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:04,040
we'll do our man have a good one YouTube

1587
01:12:09,130 --> 01:12:06,290
there we have it folks an interesting

1588
01:12:11,140 --> 01:12:09,140
examination into a huge sector of

1589
01:12:12,850 --> 01:12:11,150
manipulation and I hope we all escaped

1590
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:12,860
with a clear understanding of how this

1591
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:14,090
stuff really works

1592
01:12:18,190 --> 01:12:15,770
and I hope we're all starting to make

1593
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:18,200
some strides towards denting the

1594
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:20,210
Rockefeller and Bush family pocketbooks

1595
01:12:24,340 --> 01:12:21,920
and providing these dicks with less

1596
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:24,350
capital in which to reinvest in more

1597
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:26,930
manipulative media and maybe we've come

1598
01:12:30,670 --> 01:12:28,970
up with some new business ideas how cool

1599
01:12:32,470 --> 01:12:30,680
would that be start making your own

1600
01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:32,480
alcohol and educating your friends and

1601
01:12:35,950 --> 01:12:33,710
family and this could really be

1602
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:35,960
something I'm all jazzed up about it and

1603
01:12:39,790 --> 01:12:37,850
if you like this show and you only heard

1604
01:12:41,980 --> 01:12:39,800
the free version you can get that second

1605
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hour at the higher side chats plus calm

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it's only 5 bucks a month less than you

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tip your bartender or pizza man and

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thanks to the folks who are subscribing

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to keep the show alive and keep me

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employed working for you guys trying to

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bring interesting empowering and honest

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topics to the table it's going great so

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far I couldn't be happier I hope you all

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agree not really a whole lot to report

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this week we got an awesome new cover

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photo on Facebook and social media

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websites that was done by one of the

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listeners I'm very thankful for that if

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any of the other listeners want to send

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in some THC inspired art or marketing

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:18,680
images you know I can always use that

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stuff but that's really about it you

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01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:21,860
guys are awesome here is an

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appropriately titled song called drive

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by one of the many talented THC

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listeners out there who sent their music

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into podcast music archive at gmail.com

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his name is Dale Fortier and if you like

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01:13:38,380 --> 01:13:36,500
this song look up more of his stuff

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there you go that's going to be it for

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me this week doing my part with a

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01:13:43,900 --> 01:13:42,080
healthy dose of empowering information

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on the little podcast that could and

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it's your move manipulative

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multinational oil conglomerates your

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[\h__\h] move

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baby let's just dress

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to forget about this place maybe let's

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01:14:10,060 --> 01:14:00,260
just try far from this town maybe let's

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just try baby let's just try I take the

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wheel still suck that road to any place

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we feel far from this town baby let's

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we should run into

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drive a little faster

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never turn back drive away far from this

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let's just ride baby I come

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we got a private guarantee everybody

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01:15:20,469 --> 01:15:16,690
stays far away from you and me baby

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01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:37,480
baby let's just wrap

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you drop a little bad

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counter rules cross

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let's try

1653
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:07,950
maybe let's just try to forget about

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01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:13,210
this place maybe let's just try far from

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01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:18,970
this town maybe let's just try baby